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8 Replies Last post: Sep 17, 2008 5:01 PM by Dmitri Fedorov  
Click to view Mike's profile Apprentice 8 posts since
Mar 20, 2008

Aug 7, 2008 7:11 PM

Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?

If I'm there on Monday, and I sign up early (the reason behind first-come, first served - right?), why can't I sign up for more than 2 labs? Seems like a waste of valuable knowledge that could be gained, especially for the money paid!

Anyone know?

(BTW, if anyone ells me to read the FAQ from the link on the left menu - it doesn't work. It takes you back to the login page.)
Click to view bastien pelletier's profile Candidate 6 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
1. Aug 11, 2008 7:12 AM in response to: Mike
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?

I have to agree on that. Was planning to arrive on the Monday to have a good share of hand on labs but the 2 limits is disappointing. I hope we can sneak in other labs if there is missing people ]:) ... Or i will have to go on the self pace labs :0 .. but still. I guess they are worried that they will not be able to serve everyone...

Click to view ejward02832's profile Apprentice 19 posts since
Sep 10, 2007
2. Aug 11, 2008 9:36 AM in response to: bastien pelletier
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
Last year you were able to wait in line for labs that weren't full.
Click to view bastien pelletier's profile Candidate 6 posts since
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3. Aug 11, 2008 1:04 PM in response to: ejward02832
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
That`s what i was hoping for... then it should be ok...
Click to view ejward02832's profile Apprentice 19 posts since
Sep 10, 2007
4. Aug 11, 2008 3:21 PM in response to: Mike
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
yes and no. You may be able to get in but, you'll have to miss a break-out session to stand in line.
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5. Aug 12, 2008 7:40 PM in response to: bastien pelletier
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
That`s what i was hoping for... then it should be ok...

Unfortunately for you - probably not.

"First come, first serve" is not the same as what you are talking about. You feel as if you should be able to make it in every session possible just because you put in the time to wait in line? (I am assuming that is what you mean) VMware doesn't feel the same way in my opinion based on past VMworld experience ... they would rather see as many people as possible making 2 lab sessions. IF there are open spots that go unfilled by people not using their 2 lab sessions, only then would someone getting their 3rd (or more) lab in get a spot in the class.

Let me paint the picture as if you have never been to VMworld and never seen how they do it:

For every lab, there will be two lines:

(1) People who are signed up for the lab.
(2) People who are not signed up and are waiting for an open spot.

When the lab opens, the people who are signed up will be scanned in to the classroom. (handheld RF scanners will scan your badge and record your attendance) If you are not really signed up for the class, they will ask you to get in the other line or they will ask you to stand to the side.

The people in the second line will continue to stand there while people trickle into class. Only signed-up people will be allowed in until the very end.

When it is time for class to begin, they count the empty seats. Lets say there are 5 empty seats. They will start scanning the folks in the second line and if you have not been in 2 labs already, you will be let in and this will count towards your 2 labs quota. If you have already been to 2 labs, they will ask you to stand to the side until they get everyone in who has NOT been to two labs. So, you see that if you have been to two labs already, you are at the very end of the pecking order for classroom labs.

This is the way they have done it the last 2 years and I don't know why they would change now? I'm not saying I agree with it but I'm just saying this is how it is done. I made it to 4 labs last year and I was turned away from one because there was not enough seats.

In addition to all of the seats where labs are conducted, they usually have a row or two of "audit" seats ... 10-12 seats? These seats do not get manuals or lab materials and they only sit and listen but it is better than nothing. I saw SRM last year this way. (I think?)

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that "first come first serve" does not really give you an accurate description of what you will see while waiting to get in the line in labs.

Best of luck ... these labs are wildly popular and there will be a lot of people waiting. As the conference comes to a close on Thursday you will see more people blowing out of there early and goofing off and less people waiting in lines. Also the first labs on day 2 and 3 seem to be a little lighter. I waited in line just about every possible moment I was able to. Grab a coffee, bring a book, iPod ir laptop and start camping. See you there!

Rob

Click to view bastien pelletier's profile Candidate 6 posts since
Jul 14, 2008
6. Aug 13, 2008 5:51 AM in response to: robyeichner
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
I see... Yeah iguess that make sens... The best thing would be that they have even more class so people can get what they want.. but since it's too popular for what they can deliver... It makes sens to work that way. thanks for the head up... I guess i will need them since it will be my first experience in that type of event :p
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Aug 11, 2008
7. Aug 22, 2008 2:35 PM in response to: Mike
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?

Looking at the rate at which the lab sessions filled up - is discouraging. Especially knowing how large this conference could be. Does anyone know how many people the labs seat? Are they comparable to TechEd.
Click to view Dmitri Fedorov's profile Candidate 5 posts since
Jun 27, 2008
8. Sep 17, 2008 5:02 PM in response to: Mike
Re: Why are we only allowed 2 lab sessions?
Even more, why if I signed up I have no personal station or I cannot use my own laptop to work the lab?

Reminded me of a kinder garden: let's take each other hand and sing together...


I wanted to work the lab on my terms, if I want I'd talk to somebody, why am I forced to be paired?

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