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58 Replies Last post: Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM by Paul Huml   Go to original post 1 2 3 4 Previous Next
rexchoi Candidate 11 posts since
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45. Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM in response to: Johnathan Urschel
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!
jurschel wrote:

I have to say that I agree with you.  The communications at this conference were horrendous.  I have an AT&T 3G phone and while at the conference it showed full connectivity and bars however most days once the level of geekdom reached it's peek I could no longer make calls or even txt within the building. 

 

AT/T 3G was basically not working at all in Vegas. Switched to edge only and was working like a champ - although a bit slower.

ohyeah990 Candidate 2 posts since
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46. Sep 22, 2008 1:18 PM in response to: Johnathan Urschel
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

 

I found the same problem with my ATT 3G and my coworkers Verizon phone in other casinos as well. Full signal but cannot make calls or text. You can however make calls in the Canel Shops area. What gives??

 

 

This year's is much better than VMWorld 2007. Found that Venetian handled the crowd quite well. The two complains I have is the lack of refreshments between sessions. I found that sometimes there are only water available. Shouldn't there be at least water, coffee, and tea? Second complain, two of my sessions have titles that were completly inaccurate to their content. Even the presenter admitted to it. It was a waste of our time. VMware, do what SAP TechEd does.. have the presenter submit their presentation slides ahead of time so attendees can see if they are appropriate to what they want to hear.

 

 

BOF sessions were held at the wrong location in my opinion. How in the world are we suppose to hear anyone speak inside a huge hall with people shuffling about?

 

 

Been to MSTechEd in 06. They sure know how to keep our stomachs full!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jasongeorge Candidate 15 posts since
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47. Sep 22, 2008 1:29 PM in response to: ohyeah990
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

Right on w/ the Birds of a Feather setup.

 

 

 

 

 

Both my labs were a bust.  90% of the way through our SRM lab, ALL the lab PCs kicked us out!  Right at the point we were about to failover.  Talk about frustrating!  The entire goal of the lab was rendered moot by technical difficulties... Are we supposed to thank the sponsors??

 

 

 

Second lab had a manual that was out of order.  PowerShell scripting... in one step, create a snapshot via powershell commands, then delete it.  A few steps down, the instructions call for us to do something else w/ the snapshots.  Argh- we just deleted'em as instructed.

 

 

 

You're right about the snack and refreshments... it didn't seem consistent. It was more luck that you happen to get out of class and score a warm can of soda or snack.

 

 

 

VMware- you owe me two labs!

steveb05 Candidate 3 posts since
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48. Sep 22, 2008 1:42 PM in response to: ohyeah990
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

 

Are you AT&T guys sure you weren't connecting to the temporary t-mobile cells they had set up in the conference areas? Might explain some of the issues.

 

 

I on the other hand, being on t-mobile, had better connectivity over my edge connection than I did on the VMwold WiFi

 

 

Reid Conti Candidate 2 posts since
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49. Sep 22, 2008 1:45 PM in response to: steveb05
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

I had minor problems with my (1st gen EDGE-only) iPhone, where I got one text message hours late, and had problems making calls once or twice.

 

I also have an EV-DO aircard from Verizon, and that had much greater problems.  My connection would fail to establish, or drop randomly, or stay connected but not work right.  Not just in the conference, but in my hotel (Planet Hollywood) as well, despite strong signal strength.  It wasn't terrible, just not great.  I never even tried to use the conference wifi, it seemed futile

 

I never saw a T-Mobile banner on my phone, but for all I know the phone doesn't properly report the service provider, since I've never seen it say anything but ATT.

rexchoi Candidate 11 posts since
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50. Sep 22, 2008 2:08 PM in response to: Reid Conti
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

When I first got there, I would have really spotty 3G connections.. mostly just showing no signal and not switching properly to Edge. Finally just ended up disabling 3g altogether and everything worked great after that.

 

WiFi was spotty.. touch and go  - about half the time it would work for me.

 

I also had a verizon aircard for my laptop and that actually was pretty solid for me pretty much everywhere - conference and hotel (Treasure Island).

bayohe Candidate 2 posts since
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51. Sep 23, 2008 6:14 AM in response to: rexchoi
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

 

I don't understand where the conference capacity was a joke.  I think think that the flow between sessions was carefully thought out.  For the amount of people attending, there weren't any bottlenecks that I experienced. 

 

 

I had no connectivity issues with my Verizon Air card or my Verizon Cell either. 

 

 

I had a great experience except for one impatient guy in the Fusion lab.  <jerk>!  I am sure if VMWare or the meeting planners knew about his attitude, he would have been booted out.  (the tall one dark brown hair)  the rest of the guys working the labs were excellent with the help and knowledge transfer.  I still had a great experience in the walk in labs.

 

 

There were a lot of people, but the flow was carefully thought out.  I was personally impressed.

 

 

The snacks in the afternoon should have been provided later than an hour after lunch.  But it was nice.  It was difficult paying attention to the speaker in sessions having a popcorn back crackling behind you the whole time.

 

 

I had a great experience at VMWorld.  If I didn't, it would be my own fault and my own bad attitude.

 

 

B

 

 

 

 

 

Johnathan Urschel Candidate 3 posts since
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52. Sep 23, 2008 6:27 AM in response to: bayohe
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

Don't blame our bad experiences on bad attitude I take offense to that.  The fact of the matter is and has been corroborated by many who have posted here that communications at this conference were suffering from some serious problems.  I'm happy that you happened to have service through out.  However, imagine yourself going from breakout to breakout trying to do anything resembling work and not being able to because your phone and other wireless devices weren't working.  That's not our fault or due to a bad attitude it's the conference organizer's issue.  The responsibility for a large portion of our complaints rest at their feet.

bayohe Candidate 2 posts since
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53. Sep 23, 2008 6:42 AM in response to: Johnathan Urschel
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

 

I apologize.  I see that your experience is legitimate.  I did not mean to minimize the issues you were experiencing.  I guess I didn't think my response through.  It is certainly an issue that needs to be corrected for the next VMWorld.  Companies are investing $$ to send their employees and work doesn't stop when you walk out the door of the office.

 

 

There were some posts that were saying that there were too many people, lines etc.  I guess that was the point I was making is that even though there were a lot of lines, the flow was consistent.

 

 

My apologies to you and anyone I offended.

 

 

B

 

 

Steve Bailey Candidate 2 posts since
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54. Sep 23, 2008 6:48 AM in response to: Johnathan Urschel
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

 

OK, haven't we beaten this horse to death yet?  Assume next year will be the same quality of service as this year.  If you can adjust your work schedule and adapt then come and have a good time.  If not, stay home and the rest of us will have less people to deal with.

 

 

The fact is that I'm not sure this is the appropriate place for constructive criticism.  That should have been on the feedback form you filled out at the end of the conference.  

 

 

jasongeorge Candidate 15 posts since
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55. Sep 23, 2008 6:55 AM in response to: Steve Bailey
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Fail!  You can't assume since quality has varied from year to year.

 

 

This online forum isn't the place for constructive criticism? Why not?

 

 

And about the feedback form... I was expecting a place to list of issues at the end of the form.  I listed a few items, thinking there would be an overall / general feedback area as the last question... much like in previous years.

 

 

Johnathan Urschel Candidate 3 posts since
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56. Sep 23, 2008 7:29 AM in response to: Steve Bailey
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

Trust me it was definitely on the survey.  I gave them the same earfull I've set forth here.  Don't get me wrong I had fun at the conference it was just more headache than I'm used to having while attending one of them.  And yes the flow of folks through the conference was the exceptional part of the experience.  I really had no issues getting to and from anything.

rhilim Candidate 1 posts since
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57. Sep 23, 2008 10:35 AM in response to: ssaulsbury
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself.  I too have been to LA in '06 (horrible crowds), SF in '07 (crowded but better) and Vegas recently.  I think VMware is learning from their past mistakes, and it was made obvious this year.  People gripe about the lines and such, but what else are you supposed to do?  I mean 14-17,000 (unsure of exact count) doing their own thing with no crowd control = mass chaos!

 

My only suggestion would have been to have signs designating "registered" and "non-registered" down the halls rather than just at the head of the lines, it would have made it a little more clear as to what line you were actually standing in.

 

I pre-registered for all my sessions and didn't get denied any of them.  I do agree with the previous poster with regard to a small break between sessions to allow time to navigate from one session to the next before it starts.

 

All-in-all, I think this was an excellent conference.  I think VMware did an exceptional job in handling the crowds this year.  My only concern is how are they going to handle next year in SF?

Paul Huml Candidate 2 posts since
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58. Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM in response to: djoman30
Re: VMWare 2008 Conference capacity is a joke!!!

I for one didn't experience the pain that others have.  I heard of only a few incidents where there was a crush of people at the bottom of escalators.  I attribute that to poor placement of goodies and the timing of large sessions ending.  I have only been to two of these events, 2007 and 2008.  IMHO, 2007 was a cluster!  I spent more time in ad-hoc serpentine lines setup outside of session than i personally cared to!  Not once was I stuck in that situation in Vegas.  I had to wait in an orderly line only a couple of times and was inconvenienced very rarely with any kind of delay.  I think this year they were able to get people scanned into sessions quicker.  In San Fran it felt as though I was walking 20 miles a day, back and forth across the street from session to session.  I only felt that way in Vegas, when going to breakfast or lunch.

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